Just in case you're looking for something to read...

https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/medical-general-science/methylene-chloride-
can-strip-paint-can-also-strip-years-your-life

Don

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May I suggest an alternative?
https://products.franmar.com/products/lead-based-paint-stripper-lead-
out?_pos=1&_sid=bad8dd9a9&_ss=r

This version has a powder you stir in to encapsulate lead, good for 
about 24 hours so I only make about 2 cup at a time. nice not to worry 
about lead dust in air.  I have a 140+ year old house.  If lead is not 
an issue there is a non-lead version cheaper.  They tell you to 
ventilate but doesn't stink like methylene chloride.

I thought the meth problem was well known for more than a generation, 
the smell should be your first clue.

Esther

Methylene chloride is nasty. Nobody needs to tell you that. Its gloopy 
and burns anything it touches and only amateurs used it anyway.

  I have scrapers. Boy howdy do I have scrapers hahaahahahaha

http://users.snowcrest.net/kitty/sgrandstaff/images/Scrapers/Stanley82-3.JPG

http://users.snowcrest.net/kitty/sgrandstaff/images/Scrapers/Stanley82-4.JPG

http://users.snowcrest.net/kitty/sgrandstaff/images/Scrapers/gullwing6.JPG

http://users.snowcrest.net/kitty/sgrandstaff/images/Scrapers/gullwing7.JPG

http://users.snowcrest.net/kitty/sgrandstaff/images/Scrapers/scraper2020c.JPG

yours scott

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Yes, methylene chloride can be dangerous if used improperly, but banning 
it is an over-reaction. I don't do a lot of paint stripping but I have 
used it a number of times, always outdoors, with protective clothing and 
glasses, and will say that it works much better then other chemicals. I 
have actually purchased it at estate sales, because it is quite hard to 
find in stores anymore.

Bob Flexner, the well-known author, has been highly critical of the 
banning of methylene chloride.

https://www.popularwoodworking.com/finishing/methylene-chloride-proposed-ban-
misguided-policy/

https://www.popularwoodworking.com/finishing/methylene-chloride-part-2-some-
retailers-take-certain-paint-strippers-off-their-shelves/

https://www.popularwoodworking.com/editors-blog/methylene-chloride-part-3-im-
still-trying-to-stir-up-some-resistance-to-what-is-happening/

--Chris

My problem with scrapers used dry is lead dust, not the way I want to 
go.

Esther

Speaking of 'lead dust', does anyone have a source, domestic or foreign 
for white or red lead.  It used to come from a paint factory here in 
Madison, WI.  We used it for machine packing and sealing, it was the 
best.  I have used almost all of my last ten pound can.

Thanks
God bless,
Mike

Mike asked:

>Speaking of 'lead dust', does anyone have a source, domestic or foreign 
>for white or red lead.  It used to come from a paint factory here in 
>Madison, WI.  We used it for machine packing and sealing, it was the 
>best.  I have used almost all of my last ten pound can.

Might I ask why you are looking? I can't think of an application where red lead
and white lead are interchangable...

Neither is terribly difficult to make from lead metal, but neither is safe to
make or handle. Mishandling either uncompounded is a fast route to lead
poisoning without proper PPE and training. 

Last I checked (not too many years ago) both are available from chemical houses
in any quantity you want. Artist pigment houses also sell both in small
quantities (figure 100g/4oz increments, or so) or large, at art supply prices,
for artists that use raw pigments.

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I think I remember reading that respirators are ineffective against
methylene chloride fumes.

Phil E.

Respirators are effective only as a secondary measure or for low, 
nuisance levels of the vapor. The only recommended protection against 
the vapor is to work in a fully ventilated area.

--Chris

Erik Levin asked: "Might I ask why you are looking [for white or red lead]? I
can't think of an application where red lead and white lead are
interchangable..."

Painting submarines....
Tom Conroy (ducking and running).

Somebody's operating on a petticoat!

Ken

On Tue, 2024-05-21 at 03:47 +0000, Thomas Conroy via groups.io wrote:
> 
> 
> Erik Levin asked: "Might I ask why you are looking [for white or red
> lead]? I can't think of an application where red lead and white lead
> are interchangable..."
> 
> Painting submarines....
> Tom Conroy (ducking and running).
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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