I don't know if you need both bits when you saw it. 

If not, I would consider working it down with a drawknife. It will be
quick on green wood, and it will leave a smooth surface, which is less
likely to split when you bend it. 

YMMV, Gary Katsanis
Albion New York, USA

	-----------------------------------------From: "Richard Wilson" 
To: "the_tinker"
Cc: "porch"
Sent: Sunday September 18 2022 12:37:56PM
Subject: Re: [oldtools] Question on working green wood

 JP is doing some bodging…

 > I need to split a 1-1/4" diameter green sapling down about 18" and
then loop the split end back on itself in a tight loop.
 >
 > Think I will saw into the stick half way and split the waste away.
May still need to boil it to get as tight a loop as I want,
 >
 > Thinking hickory but will gladly entertain suggestions.

 I’m not quite understanding whether you want to bend a half round
stick into a circle, or split a full round and bend only the 18 inches
of a half round into a circle. Nor whether this is wanted with the
bark side on the inside or outside of the bend.

 But as to the question - No, not much difference between a sapling or
a sapling size branch, such as would come out of a coppice. I can’t
speak to hickory (It doesn’t grow on trees around here) but this
seems very do-able in something like hazel, or with equipment and a
shop and steaming, in beech. Lots of beechwood bent chairs around that
are about these kind of dimensions.

 A couple of days ago I was looking at some very chunky oak that must
have been steam bent back in the 19th century. Pugin designed
woodwork, back in the day when timber DID grow on trees, and the best
there was is what went into his furniture.

 Good wishes to all

 Richard Wilson
 Yorkshireman galoot, back from a visit to God’s country.

 > On 18 Sep 2022, at 16:07, the_tinker  wrote:
 >
 > For the collective wisdom of the list (Ok, mostly Scott).
 >
 > Is there a fundamental difference between working a true sapling
versus a fresh new growth branch from an old tree?
 >
 > I need to split a 1-1/4" diameter green sapling down about 18" and
then loop the split end back on itself in a tight loop.
 >
 > Think I will saw into the stick half way and split the waste away.
May still need to boil it to get as tight a loop as I want,
 >
 > Thinking hickory but will gladly entertain suggestions.
 >
 > Thanks,
 >
 > -JP
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >

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 Yorkshireman Galoot
 in the most northerly county, farther north even than Yorkshire
 IT #300

 



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