I have been lurking for a couple of years and I probably ought to introduce
myself before someone gets a shotgun out.  I am in my later 40's and have
been working wood and making design changes since I was a kid in 4-H.
 (Never made a mistake in my life!)  I spent several years off, when I had
no shop, but decided to get back into wood.  Since it was the way I
started, I bought all the "necessary" e-tools.  However, I am learning
better and am working my way into hand tools.  My wife and son accuse me of
having a saw collection, but I need them all!

My work time is spent in the law in the Atlanta, Ga area, but my fun time
is in the shop.  Currently, I am working on a blanket chest, or tool box
depending on how it looks, and I am hand cutting my first dovetails.  Of
course, I like oak, which I understand is not the easiest to dovetail.  No
matter, it will help me learn to cut them right.  My projects are few,
because I am not in the shop much.  However, I keep working at it, and
eventually finish them.

I really enjoy all I learn here, and appreciate all the knowledge that
freely flows. Thanks!

Jon Spencer

Welcome. You will find a few people here who will tell you they have a saw
problem. I wouldn't be one of them. Nope, not me. No sir, no problem here.


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From: Jon & Terry Spencer  
Date: 11/2/16  8:09 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: OldTools@s... 
Subject: [OldTools] Bio 

My wife and son accuse me of
having a saw collection, but I need them all!

neanderman wrote:

> Welcome. You will find a few people here who will tell you they have a saw
> problem.
 
Saw problem? here? Really?

I, for one, certainly didn't sit on my porch Halloween sharpening a Disston 48"
Great American crosscut while giving out candy? Certainly not! That would scare
the children, and parents.

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A warm welcome to you Jon.  Hope you learn as much here and kindle as many
friendships as I have.  Maple has always been my bugaboo, not oak.  I hope
you learn to master them both.

Paul, in SF

Um, how many saws constitutes a problem?  

Mike in Woodland

Michael Blair wrote:
> Um, how many saws constitutes a problem?

Oh, more than I've got, definitely.

Because I don't have a saw problem. :-)

  BugBear

One more than I have at any given time?

T.

Anthony M. Zaffuto, President
Metaltech, Inc.
3547 Watson, Hwy.
DuBois, PA
(814) 375-9399

More saws than you need. 

But I need all of my saws dear.

        Nathan Goodwin
         H.I.S. Carpentry
Honesty.  Integrity. Service

> More saws than you need. 

My ex thought I had too many hammers, and complained to a guy at work,
"How many hammers does a man need?!"  "Just one more," he replied. 

Mike in Woodland

I love having a box of hammers in the shop so I have a ready reference for the
intelligence of others

Ed Minch

> I love having a box of hammers in the shop so I have a ready reference for the
intelligence of others

Only one?  I have close to 200 years of reference material. ;-) 

Mike in Woodland

It depends. can you see the top of your bench?


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From: Michael Blair  
Date: 11/3/16  5:08 AM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: Paul Gardner  
Cc: OldTools@s..., Jon & Terry Spencer  
Subject: Re: [OldTools] Bio 

Um, how many saws constitutes a problem?  

Mike in Woodland
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If I recall correctly, it started being a collection at only 7 saws.  Some
people just don't understand.

Jon

Ahem...  That is most assuredly not a collection.  That would be just the
beginning of the requiste number to allow for cross-cut and rip saws in
different tooth, fleam, gullet depth, and set for hard and soft woods of
differing moisture content, grain orientation, and things I'm sure I'm
forgetting.  As well as the significant differences in plate taper and
steel quality across the important saw makers of the last 200 years.  And
panel vs. full size.  And backsaws.  And variety in nib design and purpose!
  Seven saws, indeed.  Harumph...

On Thursday, November 3, 2016, Jon & Terry Spencer 
wrote:

Jon & Terry Spencer wrote:
> If I recall correctly, it started being a collection at only 7 saws.  Some
> people just don't understand.

7 dovetail saws is a reasonable amount, surely?

  BugBear

> 7 dovetail saws is a reasonable amount, surely? 

But of course!  One needs a proper selection!  Open tote, closed tote,
straight tote, 
possibly pull saws as well as push, and different lengths in each. 
Seven is the beginning 
of a full set, no? 

Mike in Woodland

7 is reasonable, particularly  as Mike has suggested with multiple styles, such
as a "gent's saw", etc.  Now if one of the seven is one that you have made, your
number automatically doubles to 14, as it does if you have sharpened at least
half of the saws in your possession.  If it can be proved that you have actually
used at least one of the saws and have cut at least one drawer's worth of
dovetails in the past year, the number of saws you can own is now unlimited.

I think I have maybe a dozen or two DT saws, but they're not my problem!  

Anthony M. Zaffuto, President
Metaltech, Inc.
3547 Watson, Hwy.
DuBois, PA
(814) 375-9399

Anthony spoketh:
> If it can be proved that you have actually used at least one of the saws and
have cut at least one drawer's worth of dovetails in the past year, the number
of saws you can own is now unlimited.

My goodness, how I do love this group!
Steve, thankful today is Friday in Howell, NJ

> If it can be proved that you have actually used at least one of the saws
> and have cut at least one drawer's worth of dovetails in the past year,
> the number of saws you can own is now unlimited.But remember the subrule that,
even if you do not meet the requirement for unlimited, saws as yet
unrestored and held solely for repair parts do not count against the total.


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If we counted parts saws and I had a nickel for each, I'd not need to work for
pay.

        Nathan Goodwin
         H.I.S. Carpentry
Honesty.  Integrity. Service

Mike in Woodland asked:
Um, how many saws constitutes a problem?  

Well, I have 27 as 'regular’ users in my saw tills, and another dozen that I
figure I’ll get around to fixing up someday, and I don’t have a ‘problem’ either
in my mind or the view of MLW, so it has to be a number beyond 40 .. but YMMV.
Ten saws isn’t even a start on a saw problem!

Charlie Driggs


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On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 2:30 PM, Charlie Driggs  wrote:

> Ten saws isn’t even a start on a saw problem


Ten Saws could be a good weekend





-- 
Kirk Eppler, who picked up three last weekend, all & Sons or older.  Not
that I needed them, but they were too nice to leave to a saw painter.

Too late now for it but the occasion would make a great reason for finding a
reasonably priced broad axe.
Sitting on the porch with that and a treadle stone while wearing appropriate
apparel would be worthy of a Galoot ovation. Would a hood be too much?

From: Erik Levin via OldTools<mailto:oldtools@s...>

I, for one, certainly didn't sit on my porch Halloween sharpening a Disston 48"
Great American crosscut while giving out candy? Certainly not! That would scare
the children, and parents.

> Too late now for it but the occasion would make a great reason for 
> finding a reasonably priced broad axe.

Perhaps unsurprisingly for this crowd, I have a double-bitt throwing broadaxe
from my previous life. Haven't pulled it out in years, but.....
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When the English and French general staffs were doing joint planning before WWI
(against the desires of their governments), Sir Henry Wilson (spit to get rid of
the taste) asked Foch "How many English soldiers would be of use to you in time
of war.?" To which Foche replied:, "One---and we will make sure that he gets
killed."
In something of the same spirit I would answer Mike's question "How many saws
constitutes a problem?" with "One---there will be more soon enough."
Tom Conroy

Zero saws is a problem. Every additional saw beyond that results in less of a
problem. Some say there is an upper limit, but no one on this list. That would
just be crazy talk.

Joe - about to wander down to the shop for some Sunday puttering. 

Sent from my iPhone.  Please excuse auto-correct driven misspellings.

Joe makes a valid point:  for one to move to this list means one has entered the
realm of extreme old tool enabling.

SWMBO dragged home an old Ford Econoline, pointed it to me, stating 
I might want to move some of my favorite tools into it, going as far to also
when you're out drooling over them, you can hear the burbling of the creek down
over the hill behind our house.

T.

Anthony M. Zaffuto, President
Metaltech, Inc.
3547 Watson, Hwy.
DuBois, PA
(814) 375-9399