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273914 Dan Beck <drumsandbacon@g...> 2021‑06‑10 VCI Paper
Does anyone know where I could purchase just a sheet or two of VCI paper? I'd
like to make some chisel edge proctors and I'm thinking of making sleeves out of
VCI paper and then dipping that in Plasti Dip. Thoughts?


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273915 Erik Levin 2021‑06‑10 Re: VCI Paper
Dan wrote:
> I'm thinking of making sleeves out of
> VCI paper and then dipping that in Plasti Dip

I don't know that VCI paper is really the best choice here. The life of VCI
paper is not the life of the chisel. Depending on storage (sealed case, drawer
or cabinet that gets opened and closed, exposed to free air) the life may be a
year or three down to weeks or less. It releases the vapor to maintain an
equilibrium, and any loss will be made up until the paper is depleted. Leave a
piece on the bench for a week and it is done. The shelf life isn't forever,
either.

If these are for users, and corrosion is that big a worry, you might make edge
protectors that can tolerate the tool being oiled/waxed for storage, or make a
case you can keep VCI paper in.



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273919 Kirk Eppler 2021‑06‑11 Re: VCI Paper
Yup, I would not go there either.

I have VCIs in all my tool chests and cupboards, and it's the closed
environment that is critical.  (And they are almost all due for a
replacement.)

The VCI works well from the factory to the sales emporium to the garage,
but after that, unless you keep it in a closed environment, it won't last
long.

But, if you are determined, Bullfrog VCI is my choice.  The Rust Store
sells stuff, but getting 100 sheets, or 35# does not seem ideal

I'd imagine your best bet is to buy stuff wrapped in VCI, then  reuse it.

Kirk in HMB, not very helpful today.



On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 12:37 PM Erik Levin via groups.io  wrote:
273925 Dan Beck <drumsandbacon@g...> 2021‑06‑11 Re: VCI Paper
I was wondering how long the VCI paper would work, and kind of assumed it
wouldn't last long if it "out in the open". That being said, I'm going to give
it a try as an experiment. Chris Schwarz recommended wrapping chisel tips with
painter's tape (sticky side out) and then dipping in Plasi-Dip, and I know
others use things like business cards and Plasti-Dip. If it doesn't work, I'm
really not out anything. I think I'll rob a little VCI paper from some of the
packagings I've received when purchasing other blades.

-Dan

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I'm a simple man. I like pretty dark-haired women and breakfast food.
273928 Stephen Rosenthal <srosenthal26@g...> 2021‑06‑11 Re: VCI Paper
I use the painter’s tape/Plasti-Dip method. Works great and is easily
replaceable when/if they wear out. Works well on gouges too, but requires a bit
more finesse getting the protective tips back on, especially on the deeper
sweeps.

Stephen
273929 Richard Wilson <yorkshireman@y...> 2021‑06‑12 Re: VCI Paper
I can’t help suggesting that this is over thinking.

First - what are you protecting from?   Are the chisels travelling? In a bag? In
a box?  As individuals or is it a chisel family outing?   How long do they need
protecting?  Are these protectors for lifetime use, or just a one or two off
travel/job protection.  Do they have to be slip on and cling on?

As you’re talking vpi then you’re after rust prevention not just edge
protection.

Comments so far have pointed out how short lived vpi is, and if you are making
up protectors for the tips, the rest of the blade is open to rusting in humid
conditions.

The traditional thing would be a tool roll that protects the whole thing, but
leather needs to be  ?vegetable tanned? To be rust safe.  You get something
which keeps them safe from edge damage though.  If you substitute cloth or
canvas for leather, you can impregnate the material with a light oil to keep
rust away.  If you need to use lots of oil, then you may be better to use a non
polymerising oil that will be ok for wooden tool handles if it gets on them.

If you are needing to take some chisels to a work site, I’d go with a roll, ,or
if you are just needing a quick and temporary something, then find some closed
cell foam the kind of stuff used for packing items like computers or printers,
stuff that doesn’t collapse easily.  Cut a chunk as large or small as you want,
jab the blade in -it will hold because the stuff is stiff.  A wrap of tape to
stop it from being able to split out, and the job is done.  Oil your chisel
before you put it in there, and the oil will form a rust averse housing.  You DO
keep an oily rag in a tin if you have a fight with humidity, don’t you?

That last is quick, cheap, replaceable, all the things a galoot looks for.

At the other end of the scale would be a fitted box for as many chisels as are
in your travelling set.

Me?  Cheap and cheerful, respect the edge, every time.


Richard Wilson
Blue sky, blue sea, the Mediterranean comes to the North Sea (German Ocean,
Wolfgang)



> On 11 Jun 2021, at 17:32, Dan Beck  wrote:
> I was wondering how long the VCI paper would work, and kind of assumed it
wouldn't last long if it "out in the open". That being said, I'm going to give
it a try as an experiment. Chris Schwarz recommended wrapping chisel tips with
painter's tape (sticky side out) and then dipping in Plasi-Dip, and I know
others use things like business cards and Plasti-Dip. If it doesn't work, I'm
really not out anything. I think I'll rob a little VCI paper from some of the
packagings I've received when purchasing other blades.
> 
> -Dan
> 
> -- 
> I'm a simple man. I like pretty dark-haired women and breakfast food.
> 
> 
> 



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273930 Tony Zaffuto <tzmti@c...> 2021‑06‑12 Re: VCI Paper
I haven’t really paid close attention to the VCI topic, but I use a great deal
of VCI paper at my plant.  It works, but it must be in a closed container, such
as a corrugated, taped box.  In the open, the vapors bleed off.

A better method for us, is a dip in “rust ban” liquid, but that is much more
costly.

I’m not sure what the original poster was after, but a quick wipe with 3 in 1
oil would give far more protection.

T.

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